Tagged: acoustic science, bass, drums, live recording, low end, low-end, low-pass, parallel, toms
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Drum ensemble from 2004
Posted by Paul Tucci on at 6:23 pmDear listeners,
I had a delightful time today abusing the limiters in my mastering software today. 🙂
It’s yet another live performance 2-track off a console that I mixed the show on.
Pretty sure it was nothing but Shure 57 and 58 microphones on these drummers.
For me, the magic is in the panning, and pitch shifting.
Who knew plastic barrels and buckets could be this much fun?
Jesse Lewis replied 6 months, 3 weeks ago 4 Members · 12 Replies -
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This is so cool, Paul! I gotta give this a listen later in the studio w the SUB!
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Just listened on the big speakers and heck yeah man – that’s some clear, beefy, floor-tom-y low end! Sounds awesome!
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I extended the low end of the big drums the same way I did for @JLew ‘s acoustic guitar.
ie, send a duplicate channel low passed (100 Hz ish) to a pitch shifter down an octave and feed just that thunder back into the stereo buss with the original. Voila! You create bigger balls than that Bigger Balls DOGE kid.
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Amazing! Yes! I love that trick. I was just doing that earlier this week on a DI elec bass part. Sometimes I don’t do the octave (if it sounds noticeable or unnatural) and I’ll just filter the signal like you said and maybe compress the hell out of it for steady, sustained low-end, and then blend that in to taste. Sometimes I’ll even automate that parallel “sub bass” return so that it’s more prominent in choruses, or I’ll turn it down when the bass plays high riffs when it sounds unnatural or too thundery.
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Yea, to me, some of the “octavized” bass sounded off and unneccesarily deep when the second-biggest drums were playing so I just deleted that in sections and held back the oomph for a more dramatic effect when the biggest drums re-entered.
…Commit the processed track to audio, then chop it out where it’s deemed illegal. I suppose automating the level is a more elegant approach. It’s good to be a king.
I have a couple more drum pieces from the event to dig into for some more moments of fun.
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WOW! Now this one is near & dear to my heart. Being a 1. Drummer 2. Percussionist 3. Snare in 2 Drumlines 4. Having seen the Taiko Drummers a few times. That is badass. As you mentioned, big/beefy low end, but clear & crisp where it needs to be. Nothing but a 57 & 58? I guess there’s a reason why they’re still being used…everywhere. Well done!
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I’m glad it moved you too! Drums are powerful and primal.
I had a blast mixing the show at the time, revisiting the recording 20 years later and then doing some mild mastering voodoo. My peak Samurai sorcery, (TM @dana) took place in a different venue, post-event celebration.
The US Womens’ synchronized swimming team stopped by the club to celebrate a win and give the crowd a demonstration. I had to integrate their underwater speaker to my sound system. There’s a couple issues. The swimmers hear their music under the water. Sound travels quicker in water, (denser medium than air) than it does in air. Compound the situation because my PA was a short Elvis delay (100 feet) away from the pool. Pop your head out of the water and there goes synchronicity. I calculated the rough footage away from my speaker to the middle of the pool and add that amount of milliseconds of delay to the feed to the underwater speakers and “kichijutsu!” Their aural world is now re-aligned. Science.
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OMG, this is the coolest science-y-est engineering story I’ve heard in ages!! ⚡️👨🔬 🥽 🎚️
It’s got math, it’s got science, it’s got quick ingenious problem-solving, it’s got underwater speakers, olympic athletes, it’s even got a lil’ Elvis sprinkled in!
You truly are a samauri sound sorcerer, @-PT !
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You just blinded me with science! That is amazing. I”m sure I wouldn’t have had ANY clue as to what to do in that situation. You channeled Matt Damon, in the movie <em jscontroller=”yHWXO” style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”>The Martian: “In the face of overwhelming odds, I’m left with only one option. I’m gonna have to science the shit out of this!”.
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This sounds insanely good. I love this entire thread…
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