Tagged: DI, guitar, live sound, panning, phase, polarity, stereo image
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Fresh off the press!
Posted by Paul Tucci on at 7:12 pmOnce again, a two-track off the console with a little AI mastering assist and a good dose of attitude for your listening pleasure.
From last Tuesday’s guest artists … a most curious finger picking duo.
Dana Nielsen replied 5 months, 3 weeks ago 2 Members · 6 Replies -
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Very cool, Paul, thanks for sharing, man!! Love it.
The main guitar feels out of phase to me – am I crazy? Like, it’s one guitar but I hear it in the left and right channels – not sure if ur panning a stereo DI, or if it’s a mixture of DI and mic – but when I sum the mix to mono and flip the L/R polarity, that main guitar sound seems to improve.
I know you’re just working with a 2-track mix, so adjusting that may not be possible … but then again, I know not to doubt your AI stem sorcery! haha.
Lemme know what you discover!
Sounds like a great show!
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Dana,
No, you’re not crazy, and in the words of Waylon Jennings, even if you were it would keep you from going insane. What you accurately heard was a single acoustic guitar pickup feeding both a DI output AND through an SM57 on a guitar amp. Panned them to spread them out but not completely. Had I done that I could have effectively separated the two sound sources paths with my stem separations and done a more thorough examination. What I could do was this. … on just the instrument separation stem containing just guitar sounds, I ran the stereo stem through my RX11 audio-fix-it machine and found a tool I was as-of-yet unfamiliar with. The ADAPTIVE PHASE TOOL. I suspect it does some phase alignment much like the Little Labs IBP. The processed guitar stem was then reintroduced to the stem mix.I think it helped lessen the “swimminess” of the guitar. The drummer’s vocal shifted slightly more center as did some of the kick and snare. I’m guessing that the phase rotation of the RX11 tool was working in the lower freqs. The attached song version has my best fix in it.
Consider this a formal request 🙏 for an article/video/discussion of your process on this topic.
So I learned a few things from this adventure and my resultant experiment.
One, it’s possible to have too much haze in the theater.
Two, when the fire/smoke alarm in the theater goes off, a relay system disconnects the AC power to my speaker system. That’s probably a good safety measure.
Three, neither the responding firefighters, nor management agree with my sense of humor. There could be no better song choice than Burning Down the House (Talking Heads) to test the sound system after I got power restored.
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Hahaha – all good points!
Here’s a lil video response I made– inspired by your request, but delivered in a way that could be enjoyed outside of this particular context. I’ll prob dress it up with graphics and pictures to help illustrate things, but for now it will live here, raw, in this thread.
Lemme know what u think about what I say in the vid — curious to hear your thoughts!
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Dana, Thank you for detailed response. That was well said, concise, and indicative of some of the gems you spit on the MIXLAB zoom sessions. @-PT
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My pleasure, Paul- glad you dug! Great seeing you on the MixLAB zoom the other day, and I realized only later what I couldn’t put my finger on … you shaved your beard! Lookin snazzy as always!
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