Tagged: mix-feedback-2, mixing, Pop Music, recording, reference-mix, vocals
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Need Feedback on a New Mix
Posted by Christopher Dunston on at 9:49 amI’m looking to sure up this mix to submit to artists as well as Film/TV. Any feedback you’d be able to give would be amazing!
Paul Tucci replied 1 year, 7 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies -
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@Bigchrizzle!! Awesome song and track, man – love the title too. Great work and thanks for sharing!!
The main thing on my mind while listening (aside from what a fun banger this is) was a curiosity if the lead vocal could breathe a bit more on the top end, could the whole track be mastered a bit brighter? I love the knock of the kick, but is it deep enough? Stuff like that. I tried to think of a good reference track for you and this is the first thing that popped into my head, based on the tempo and similar clap-snare. I think if you listen to this as a reference and A/B it to your current mix, you’ll know exactly what to do in a few relatively easy, broad strokes.
Lemme know if this helps, man (and no worries if not haha). ☺️
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Thank you my brother!! As always, I really appreciate your insight and tips! It is helping me become a better producer and mix engineer!
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My pleasure, homey!! So glad you’re here and sharing and chimin’ in!
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Christopher, I’m wondering, if with such a sparse, open musical arrangement with interesting and compelling ear candy happening, could you not take advantage of that open frequency range in the low end and really have a wall of low end when the bass comes in, effectively making it one of the lead musical characters? Bass/handclaps/lead vocal atop the ear candy talks to me. Good luck with the track! PT
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Hey Paul,
Thank you for that idea! I think I will definitely experiment with it. Do you think I should bring the 808 in louder to give it more bottom, or something else?
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Dana’s idea of deepening the 808 kick is one path. It would be foolish to ignore the Fuhrer ya know? His suggestion triggered my thought of what is the sonic landscape, and led me to believe there’s room in the low end to explore. There’s a big dynamic range in that area, from nothing going on in some verses to Bass/K support that feels a little polite, level wise. Deepening the tonality of the 808 K will change that considerably. Taking the Bass line down an octave and gaining it up a couple dB just might separate it from the K frequency wise and add some drama and weight to the lower end of the track. I say “might just” because I’m a 70 year old white guy. You may want to check in on some of my posted pieces here to see if I’m at all legit. 🙂 PT I will attempt this experiment my own self in a day or two.
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I was thinking something along these lines. I separated out the bass line dropped it down the octave, low passed out the 100 Hz and above, and mixed it back in to supplement the low end. Obviously playing it in the desired register would be smoother sounding than this is. I think the concept was good. The 808 lives above the Bass line and is separated well. The new weight of the new found low end forced my hand to work the top end too. How do you react to the experiment?? Thanks, this was much more fun than working on my taxes. PT
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Lookin fwd to hearing this when back in the studio – thanks Paul for your insights and experiments! Wayyyyy more fun than taxes, indeed!!!
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Hey Paul,
I really appreciate this! I’m going to give it a listen tomorrow in the lab after I finish some things! This is awesome!
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As lead scientist on this experiment I tried a different path. Using RIP-X I separated out the bass line and tried dropping it an octave via the RIP-X MIDI -like notation. However there appears to be no B flat -1 on the piano scale. The part is written to be plenty deep, but doesn’t translate as well as I was desiring probably because of a mix level. A quick mix with +4-5dB made a big difference. Now I’m starting to wonder if my combination headphones and modest listening level is pushing the extreme low end into Fletcher-Munson territory. I learned a thing or two . PT
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