Entourage Jesse Lewis
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Thank you Thank you Thank you! I just read it again! I know I had read that before but for some reason, I just wasn’t really ready to understand what you were fully trying to say! Especially the part about how you actually use them to mix with! I always sort of assumed you were just monitoring on them, but now I’m starting to understand that you actually make adjustments while using those as your monitors! I think I get it more now! Also – That low end tip in “chaos to clarity” is so fantastic, too! The idea of just using the EQ rather than the faders at that point of the process isn’t the most intuitive thing, but it makes complete sense! This journey is so much fun, and it means so much to have this space as a learning resource and community of support!
I’m just starting a new mix today and I began with your advice about starting with the biggest part first and now I’m kind of working backwards to the beginning – it’s such a great concept for getting the big parts to feel like they hit hard when they need to! I hope to have something to share very soon! Thanks again brother!
with love,
Abuela
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Following!!! 🙂
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Dudski! I cannot believe I’m only seeing this response now. This is single-handedly the best description of how to dial in compression that I have ever read. The five steps that you laid out are explained brilliantly. It never occurred to me about how you can find your threshold based on the part of the note that you want to be able to hear more of, even though that seems obvious now in retrospect. I’m so thankful. And I’m stoked to compress the crap out of everything haha jknk
I think the fab filter compressor plug-in I have will be an excellent tool to visualize this, too. The next time you hear my guitar, it’s going to be sustaining at levels never before comprehended by mankind haha
love and many thanks,
Abuela J
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Thanks, Paul!
I hadn’t thought about how important those frequencies are for speaking in a live sound situation. Very enlightening…
This stuff is all slowly coming together. Amen!
-JLew
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Yes sir! It’s very cool! I’m not aware of another plug-in that simultaneously shows you the frequency response of your sides in conjunction with your mids, so you can really see how they look side-by-side. I’m sure something like that exists, but I found it to be pretty cool….. and you can’t beat free!!!
Loving the clarity M so much! Even just for tracking stuff I finding it so handy to have that information on its own screen like that!
Can’t wait to hang with everybody on Friday on the zoom!!
Love,
JLew
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This response helps me feel SO much more confident in understanding this concept. Many thanks to you and @-PT (as always) for the wisdom and generosity. Now I can finally sleep again!!!
but seriously man — this forum and community is so important to me, I thank you for creating this space.
JLew
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@dana One more question (haha) if you don’t mind….This one has really been keeping me up at night 😅 It’s about the amount you send to a return VS the level on the return channel itself… I made a video for the question which seemed easier. Curious to hear your thoughts (and anyone else’s) on this subject:
https://youtu.be/tprL_DAkPZ8youtu.be
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and was actually wanting to ask about pre-fader vs post fader too! You’re on fire @dana !!!
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This is all great! thanks for the question and all the thoughtful responses. I was going just going to ask about the send/return and you beat me to the punch. I’ve been messing around with UAD Sound City plugin for room sounds recently. pretty cool. I need to check out the ocean way too! Thanks all!
JLew
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Dana!
Ahhhh yes of course! This makes total sense.
So basically, if you use only one microphone, it will always be in mono, either equally on both speakers or placed to one side if it’s panned that way.
So if I understand correctly then — a cardioid mic and an Omni mic would both record a mono recording – it’s just that the Omni mic recording would most likely result in hearing more of the surroundings then the more directional mic which would reject a lot of the elements that are behind it and on the sides of it. So basically you should just pick your polar pattern based on the type of sound you want to record or depending on the specific situation you find yourself in (ie trying to reject certain things)?
And the same would hold for stereo recording, and that you could capture a stereo recording with two cardiod mics OR two Omni mics, and they would just result in different sound capture, but they would still be in stereo? I think I’m starting to get this now.
It’s fascinating all the stuff I’ve been learning about using the different polar patterns in different types of situations, especially as cool ways of rejecting certain sounds while recording the ones you want.
I’ve been doing some research on YouTube and looking to purchase the Lewitt LCT 441 FLEX Large Diaphragm Condenser Microphone. It’s got a bunch of different polar patterns and looks indestructible and seems to sound really good from what I can hear on YouTube examples. Are you familiar with that Mic?
JLew
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Paul!
Thank you SO MUCH for all this info, this really clears everything up for me! How did I know you’d be just the person to ask about this haha!!??
That’s also very interesting about your -6 db tick. That’s so cool! And it makes perfect sense too, but I never would’ve thought of that.
As far as getting TWO monitors to run in stereo, I usually consider myself lucky if I can even get one for myself and I don’t have to carry it! 🤣 still not baller level yet!
Thanks again,
Jesse
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Thanks for this Dana! This is SUPER helpful!
❤
JLew
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Yo! Thanks so much brother for thoroughly answering all of my questions about this. I feel confident now that I understand this concept!
ps – I got a pair of the audio technica 50x’s and also a pair of the beyerdynamic 880 Pros. I like having both a closed back option for recording and an open back option for extended listening. Very glad I didn’t blow my entire savings on some ultra fancy headphones. Still need more guitars haha
JLew
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Dana and Paul! Thank you guys for providing all of your insights on this.
Dana – I read you response to Dewey in the Limiter thread and you addressed some of my questions there. It sounds like generally you try to get your mix to communicate everything without inserts on your master bus, and use the limiter to send a loud version to your clients (but take it off before sending to master engineer). It sounds like sometimes (but not always?) you add some subtle EQ, stereo imaging stuff (like bass mono) or saturation if you are hearing it as part of the finished sound of the track and don’t want to leave that up to mastering engineer?
I guess the crux of my original question is kind of more based on curiosity about standard “pro” practice. Because I am just mixing and mastering my own tracks there’s never a consideration of the mastering engineer, in every case I mix my track first and then master it (usually some kind of subtle EQ, a gentle glue compression, possibly some color/saturation, and finally the limiter.
I wasn’t sure if in the “pro” world you would typically leave ALL of the master channel processing to the mastering engineer? Or if you sometimes include your own eq, compression, etc BEFORE the mastering engineer gets it.
I’m guessing it depends?
JLew
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Yo Paul! This is great and very helpful to hear your perspective and input! I can dig what you are saying!
ps – I too just started tinkering with ozone 11, and I’m finding it to be such a cool tool, especially for some instructional value. I often find that when it’s master assistant AI renders my track it sounds really over the top and often not the direction I might go in/where my ear would lean, but it’s so cool to look under the hood and see all of the things it’s doing. I find myself often seeing things it does that I hadn’t thought of and going back and addressing them.
I got the entire suite on a super sale about 6 months ago but am just finally getting into it now. The RX 10 is INSANE!!! Such a game changer for me, because my home studio has so many noises and sounds from my heater or noises from outside that often ruin takes. With that spectral repair module I can just take them out so easily! Magic haha
All this learning is such fun indeed!
Best,
Jesse