Entourage JON PLETT
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Wow. Ain’t that something!
I still do all my MIDI in Logic and my analog recording/editing in PT. This is certainly interesting and worth exploring. -
Hey @Nikolaj
I appreciate you taking the time to listen and to offer your feedback. As a songwriter yourself, you have valuable insight into this stripped medium.
To your point in revebs and delays. I have noticed that I tend to mix dryer….more dry 🤷♂️ than many of my peers. I’m not sure if I should stick to my guns or adjust. However, they are all much more accomplished than I am, so I feel like adjusting is the better route 😂. Thanks for pointing that out. As far as the performance tips you mentioned, I’m hoping I gain the trust of future session with this individual and these would be great avenues to explore.Thanks again for offering your feedback. Also, great job on your english. This is a frustrating and difficult language to learn. I had no issues interpreting you. You’re doing great!
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Jesse, this is a beautiful tune. I’m pretty sure I hit zen at around the 30-second mark!
I’m no resident expert, I mostly wanted to just jump on and give some encouragement because I really enjoyed this.
My two cents for what it’s worth:
I realize it is not typical for there to be a lot of hard panning in this type of music. You’re likely wanting to avoid distractions or take the listener out of the moment, but I wonder if there are some opportunities to add a little motion.
Perhaps the swell at the 1:55 mark can be a more extreme pan. The harmonizing gtr, like the one at 0:45, maybe a subtle L->R. The brown/white noise-type cycle that runs throughout the song, maybe moves around the stereo field a bit?, or maybe some automated EQ filtering as it moves through the song. (same with that 16th pulse that comes in around 1:20)
🤷♂️Again, great job! I really enjoyed this tune.
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I got the Boz big clipper. Can’t say I feel like I’ve got a good handle on using it though. But I sometimes use it on my snare and kick bus.
I have found, with the kick especially, that it helps me get a bit more perceived volume out of it. I thinking it’s because it’s not making my compressors down the line react as much to the low end info. 🤷♂️ -
Thanks again @shimmerisland and @dana for your feedback on V1.
As promised, here’s V2, addressing those concerns, and in this version I added some light tambo at the end. It’s tucked enough that I feel I might be able to get away with sending this version to him.
@shimmerisland turns out that that peaking sound (kinda sounded like scratching) was an artifact from RX. I was looking at reducing the pick noise and hand sliding across the strings noise and I guess I got too grabby in that section and it created that artifact. Thanks for pointing that out. It took me 5.5 hrs to figure it out! haha. I was muting channels, making new guitar and voc comps, I couldn’t figure it out until I dove into old stems pre-RX.
As always, any and all feedback is appreciated.
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Hey @shimmerisland
Thanks for taking time to listen and for your feedback. Thanks for bringing my attention to the peaks, I’ll jump in and look at addressing those.In my OP I didn’t want to bring attention to my voc doubles because that I felt was my weakest point of this whole thing. First off, I’ve never done it before but I grabbed a trial of VocAlign and messed around with what it could do. I never have been completely happy with it though. I’m glad you brough it to light. I’ll spend some more time on that.
@dana
Thanks for taking your time to review as well. I appreciate your feedback.
– guitars distorting in Ch – Thanks for this. I wonder if it’s the limiter on my master aux. Goal is to bring it to a competative volume, but I need to make sure I’m sacrificing the audio in the process. I’ll address that, thanks.
– Starting at a big section and working backwards – Great tip! You caught me with my pants down that I haven’t gone through “5 Mix Powertips”. 🤦♂️(shame shame). Makes a lot of sense though. I don’t konw if this analogy is the most appropriate, but in dialogue editing for films I’ve worked on, we often start editing in the middle of the film to get a feel for it, and mistakes are easier to hide when the viewer is already invested in the plot and character development has already happened, keeping the best edits for the beginning and end of the film. We’re not intersted in hiding mistakes persay, but focusing on keeping the most important parts the best they can be.
– Candy – great tip. Not sure it’ll pass QC because he wants to avoid it getting too production(y) but I’ll certainly throw it in there for next review and see where it lands.Thanks to both of you for the kind words and more importantly for your time to listen and provide feedback.
I’ll try to get an updated version up here this week.🙏
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Wow, I’m pretty surprised how much headroom that freed up on the Master fader.
Thanks for making this! And thanks @Michael for kicking this chat off. -
“Rise up” 😂🤦♂️ Hahaha.
Very much appreciate the feedback, thank you!
On this version I made the following changes:
Voc – Bypassed slate fresh air to reduce some highs and high mids. reduced 3 dB(ish) from high shelf eq.
Eq’d more highs out of the voc verb and added a bit more low mids. Boosted verb send about 4 dB
Bgv’s – boosted 1 dB in all pertaining sections
Gtr – added 3 dB of volume to the overall track and an extra 1.5 dB on the Ch’s. Little volume swells going into the choruses and down bridge. Brought the outro gtrs up an additional .5 dB.
Thanks again for your guidance. I’m not afraid of revisions, so let me have it!
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Hahaha, no no no! This is the client, not me singing.
Thanks for creating all this great material my guy! Been enjoying it like CRAZY!