Entourage Jeremy Roye
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Man, your posts are epic. Many thank yous! You might consider blogging about music if you don’t already!
Welcome to the revolution! haha.
All great notes. I’m been feeling that double whistle might be one too many in the intro especially if there’s other intro-stuff. Will experiment with the intro and peep the sibilance.
And I love I love Lucy. Sign me up!
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Ya had me at the title, ha!
Mix sounds phat and crazy wide. You gotta teach me how you got that width.
I hear all the instruments clearly.
Maybe the kick could knock a bit more or clip a bit just too get a little nastier in the club.
Maybe mastering could bring out some of the high end (you might reference Skrillex. I’ve realized in extensive comparison that his mixes are crazeee crispy and festival/club ready; the kick is often super high end knocky, and he get’s his master to pump into the -7lufs range by going slightly in the red on Ableton (without it distorting).
This is all mythical, so maybe Dana could give more to chew on.
Phat wobbles!
Jeremy
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Sounds nice and lively to me!
Would be hard to say without hearing the less squeezed version to say which is best. But feels nice to me as is!
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Ew! Timely! I was wondering the same thing after listening to your (excellent) Ari podcast interview.
Your video was comforting as I’m a reference-fanatic.
For those like me that don’t have a phancy console set up, I drop my references in every Ableton session and have a solo hot key (1 for the modern pop track, 2 for the warm indie vibe, 3 for Beatles cuz Beatles) for each one so I can quickly compare vibes and even move around the instrumental or vocal sections where they line up accordingly for a little more focus.
Thanks for making this, Dana!
Very interested in this topic!
Jeremy
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Hey Jesse,
I thought the whistle sounded great, first of all. It’s relevant for me as I’m mixing a whistle track and have been A/Bing with PBJ’s Young Folks. I never realized how crazy loud they’re whistle is and how it definitely has some resonant frequencies that bother my ears. Yet, that didn’t stop them from becoming a mega hit.
Your whistle however is very gentle and quite pleasing and ethereal and fits great with those haunting chords. Really enjoy the visual pairing as well!
Lovely work,
Jeremy
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Noted! And will use this a much need resource moving foward! Appreciate cha, DANA!
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Danaaaaa!
Amazing. That kick has much-BOOTY!
And this tutorial was so cool for seeing your work flow and tools. I don’t often kick-stack cuz I didn’t have a solution for phasing in my belt. Now I do!
I’m seconds away from buying the Infected Mushroom because whatever money I haven’t given to Bezos belongs to Waves plugins it seems. ha.
Also, I dig the extra pump. I guess if you were to pump your mix you would pump most things except the vocals?
Huge thanks for taking the time in the late nigh hours to give this mix some love and teach us all.
Incomparable.
Thank you,
Jeremy
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Thanks Roy! Appreciate that. Yeah, a stomp is the vibe, but an electric Berlin-meets-Htown stomp! Ha. To your point, I recognize that a true foot-on-the-wooden-floor stomp would be iconic and work more effortlessly.
But for real would love to hear a Roy Matz re-mix with a guest vocal too. Just saying. 🤩
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Hi Paul,
Love the depth you put into this feedback and your poetic way of interpreting and verbally arranging, as you said.
Generally I think cutting some of the intro and outro could be helpful and impactful (and certainly more modern and pop-forward). As a study in comparison, I listened back last night to my favorite all-time inspirations (eg. Radiohead, Odesza, Edward Sharpe) and I really loved so much the *extra-ness* of their work.
There’s also an album context with this song too and sometimes I think while the intro of this song could be either deleted or added to the outro of the preceding song on the album to make it short and snippy for Spotify, I feel *at this moment* that I would just rather be a little extra. ha!
Having said that, I really appreciate your ideas and will give them a try nonetheless. 🙂
Many thanks,
Jeremy
Ps: thanks for turning me onto the Raising Sand.
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Wow, Dana. Means a lot to hear I’m progessing. Especially after spending at least a full day on it since the last version and I’m learning a lot. Exciter helped a lot too with the vox.
But Roy can tell you from our years of masterminds that kicks have been a challenge for me! I also tried auditioning other kicks and while many sounded more premium they all sounded too much like something I’d heard before, some genre that I don’t want to be.
“Acoustic dance-banger” is exactly right on!
DM’ed the stems.
Looking forward to learning your process!
Thanks,
Jeremy
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Hi Dana and MP fam!
Many thanks for those fairy dust ideas (this would be a sweet app!, just saying). I incorporated many of them and even got the exciter. Fun!
Curious if this mix improved the kick and the vocals / over all vibe?
I like an electronic kick for this song though hopefully I tamed the high end / volume and now have it actually in tune with the song. haha.
Am I close?
PS: Thanks for pointing me to the Prep School!
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Hi Dana!
Been marinating and remixing based these notes and really finding it so darn meaningful to hear those kind words to this song which means so much to me. Thank you! (ps: those bgv’s were arranged once again by the great @Nate.)
The kick is too clicky! I agree. I never noticed but I felt it. And now I can’t unhear it. (ps: I finally got Reference 2 thanks to your suggestion on our call and it finding it helpful to really hear the difference quickly between my mix and references which I use heavily).
I’ll sprinkle some more verb and echo on the vocal as well! Can you make a plug in called Fairy Dust so I can do this more easily? Is that what you use for widening primarily, verb and echo? Is sounding more expensive also essential boosting the 10k and up air stuff, for you?
As for the pump, I was really leaning into Odesza at the time of production and sidechaining the heck out of the bass. I want a bigger mix! But not sure I can unpump the pump from my stems. ha.
Either way, I’ll have another mix soon with hopefully enough fairy dust and round kick flavors.
Thanks as always for the notes and the support!
Jeremy
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Thanks, so much, Jesse! I really appreciate the kind words. As for the kick… I hear it now thanks to you and Dana, it’s a bit over-smacked. It’s also out of tune I noticed so I might replace or tune and round off the high end like you suggested. I’m working on it and will report back with a new mix soon! Thanks again!
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Respect, thank you Paul! Well said.
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Haha, thanks Paul!
Yeah, all about that One Love since watching the new Bob Marley flick! haha.
I appreciate the encouragement and POV. I’m not sure the telephonic style was intentional (it was really desperately trying to DS a vocal with a huge printed verb). But it seems folks like the vibe so I feel more confident to roll with the effect and not sweat that it doesn’t sound like a full U47 vocal or something.
I’ll check out SoundID. Interesting! I could likely use this quite badly considering my studio space is very untreated and I love headphones.
Many thanks again for your time and ears!
Jeremy