Entourage Jesse Lewis
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oh yeah baby! It’s the sound of summer!!! funky funky fawnky
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abuela
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Hi Phoebe! This is so cool!
The vocal feels connected to the mix to my ear, i wasn’t hearing it as being particularly “plopped on top”. One thing that struck me when listening was that you may want to ride the lead vocal a bit when the band is really hitting. The section between 2-3min I was finding that the lead vocal could have been louder. It felt like it was sitting great in the intro and the first verse when it didn’t have as much to compete with.
I think exploring more reverb/delay and special moments with FX throws, etc would totally fit the vibe. Couldn’t hurt to try!
Can’t wait to hear the final mix!
Best Wishes,
Jesse
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Yeah man! Dig it! SUPER fun!
Love the drumbeat, the overall party feeling, and the “graceland” style bass. Very cool
A couple of quick notes — not sure if they are helpful, but just some things I was thinking with my “critical” hat on.
(If it’s not the final vocal yet), perhaps the singer could be a little more “laid back”. Feels kinda on top of the groove a little? Laying it back, a little “drunker” might make it groove harder?
I wonder if at some point literally just dropping it down to the drums and vocal for a short moment could be impactful? Maybe worth exploring…1:14 comes to mind?
Can’t wait to hear it when it’s all done. Cool to hear you producing someone else’s vision, too!
keep rockin!
JLew
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Yoooo!!! Thanks man! SUUUUPER helpful!!!
This question was in reference to my track w/ the vibes, which I actually already had used the “slippery fader” trick on in my mix bus! haha
As I was mastering it I STILL felt that the really quiet ambient parts needed to come up in volume, just to limit the dynamic range a bit more. It’s so interesting — all of the psychological and sonic magic involved in mixing to get things to feel good on speakers or headphones. When I was in the woods playing live all of those super dynamic parts felt so good, but then when translating that very same performance to speakers the really quiet sections feel like they need some extra support/volume to make them feel more like the energy of actually playing live. It’s all just so fascinating!
I’m really glad to hear you confirm that this is is OK, and that it’s something that you do.
As a sidenote — I’ve noticed with the vibraphone, particularly in the low midrange — when they cross the threshold of the limiter (im using fabfilter L2) they cause much more distortion than my guitar transients do. If I had to guess I think it’s because the attack of the vibraphone with the mallets lasts longer than the pick hitting the guitar string. And in such an intimate setting, I really have to be careful not to let the vibes hit the limiter (whereas with drum beats, etc. I think they might mask the distortion better)
Thanks for your quick and very informative response!
Love,
JLew
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Dear @Dana !
Brother! This is so unbelievably next LEVEL!!! Thank you for taking the time to go through all of this and record it for the benefit of all of us here at mix protege! I learned SOOOO much. This lesson is applicable to so much of the music I’m recording, it’s going to help make my productions sound much better and more representative of what it feels/sounds like when I’m actually playing the music.
We are truly blessed to have you in our lives. Thank you for creating this space and for all that you’re giving to this community and the greater world of music!
Thanks also to @-PT for always offering your knowledge and going so deep with your expertise as well!
Mucho Love,
JLew
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Files emailed! ❤
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Dear P $,
and just for the record….(as the kids say) that Stonehenge joke really “slapped!”
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Thanks so much Dana! This is very helpful!
Love,
Abuela
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Paul! Thanks (as always) for your help on this. So many great pieces of info in your response…and you know i gets funky with my clappin’!
I find it interesting that you suggested moving the iPhone audio back to the left on the X axis to align it with the vibes audio. This was kind of the crux of my question — and it seems like both you and @Dana had a similar response in that I should align the phone with the close mic/mics. I would have assumed that I should actually drag it later in time, which would represent the more natural placement of where the microphone actually was in relationship to the source of the sound? It sounds to me like one thing that’s very important, regardless of milliseconds, is that I get the phasing correct! And the rest I should move it around to see what feels/ sounds the best.
I’ve actually been struggling with this mix because the mic on my guitar amp picked up my guitar faster than the bleed of my guitar amp into the mics on the vibes (and the left hand mic and right hand mic also got the guitar at different times from eachother). So I have sound arriving into all the mics at different times. This type of stuff is a real challenge to me because usually I’m just recording one instrument at a time.
I’ll have some sounds to share soon…
Thanks again for all the info and great advice!
JBear
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Hey MP fam!
I added more “pre-bass” and some Dimension D on the guitar to make it feel a bit bigger/wider. I had to be subtle so it didn’t sound too “chorusy.” I’m also adding the “official video” to the thread in case anyone is interested in seeing the performance/space…
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Thank you brother! On it!!! I’ll share the video with you all in the coming days!
Your comments were also both things that I had been wondering about with the mix, as well!Maybe some future Dana video/tutorial could be on simply a few ways to add stereo width/lushness to mono sources? I get my self into that pickle a lot because I’m often recording the guitar with one mic.
Hope you’ve recovered from your donut tour haha
Love,
JBear
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Good Question, Paul! I’m attaching a picture of the scene for more clarity. This picture is my position right as I was clapping my hands. You can also get a sense of where the iphone was positioned in relation to us by the picture. (I’m also attaching an unmixed snippet of audio from the session just to give you a sense of the vibe…)
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Dear P Money!
Thanks for all of your feedback. I think those are all great ideas. I can definitely imagine a much more subtle, deeper, less drum beaty kind of feel — but I think I’m gonna stick with my original “gut” concept, more in the kick and snare world. Re collab: Let me know if you want me to send you the stems — I can send you them with everything accept the drums and you can cook up what you were hearing? Let me know!! I’d love to hear a P-$ remix!
ps – Your recent acceptance of huge verbs is an inspiration to all of us. The world could truly learn a lot from your journey…
Love,
J. “Popcorn” F. Lewis
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Hey Bar!
Love this dreamy track! I’m sitting in a lodge in the Rocky mnts after a very long day of travel and just playing it on repeat. It’s soothing my soul.
May I ask what was the bass sound you were using? Love that sound!
Best,
JBear
