[Jeremy Roye]

Hey Joe!

Lovely track, across the board, especially that sweet guitar licks.

I think Jesse covered a lot of tweaks and experiments worth trying.

I didn’t mind the soft organ-y patches, but a new sound or at least some tape/saturation to dirty them up just a bit could help; and perhaps higher parts near the end of some climactic energy.

The only other note I would try if in the studio with you is making the drop out bridge feel in a different space, like maybe put your voice in reverb, or one of those guitar parts in a spacious background. And I felt those claps were a bit of a tease, so gentle when I wanted them to be a bit more rapturous and or live group feeling. Knee slapping time! ha.

That’s all. Beautiful stuff, man!

[Jeremy Roye]

Hello Father Paul,

Congrats on you and yours son’s collabo. That’s my daddy-daughter dream.

The master sounds great, as does his drumming! Very tasty.

And I second Jesse that it’s nice to hear a live band sound. Kinda gentle-Weezer.

Best,

Jeremy

[Jeremy Roye]

Sorry I’m late to the party, Jesse. Coming out of my music cave and happy to hear some new sparkly sounds enter (or re-emerge) in your soundscape!

My initial thoughts are:

– Da Guitar sounds sick! Very Blade Runnery

– Da Sax sounds like a great recording, I wish it has more sauce on it like the guitar

– Da Beat (particularly the snare) sounds a little hot and crispy to my ears, somewhat painful (compared to, say, a Chappell Roan record I was just playing). And especially compared to your more gentle vibes in general.

– The synths sound like their in a nice space to me

– I might bring up some of the hose cool synths slightly louder in the foreground at the end

Otherwise, very beautiful and spacey / watery piece!

Cheers from ice-cold Austin,

Jeremy

[Jeremy Roye]

Thanks a million @dana and @JoeRobinson!

Per your advice, I pushed the drums up and vocals down a bit. I liked it and got it mastered by my usual guy; however I’m thinking of getting an alt.

I feel like the beat/snare in particular doesn’t crack or hit like my go to references (PBJ’s Young Folks, Odesza’s Line of Sight, Radiohead’s Lotus Flower).
And I feel like the mix/master sounds a bit mushy. 🙁

Any recommendations for getting the snare to crack a bit more?

I can’t tell what frequency it really needs to stick out in the right place, my 6k/7k. Feeling lost.

Any recs would be hugely appreciated!

The master: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ekrcsu837iqdrhqogomnm/We-Are-Animals-M1.wav?rlkey=75yqlez8za1pcfi1xuizao2j6&st=cd9fmfg8&dl=0

Thanks,

Jeremy

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[Jeremy Roye]

Loving this thread of notes and curious to learn more about the chaos to clarity protocol!

More importantly, Joe! Phew, smoking performance and song.

Really nice stuff. Felt like I was back in Texas in some middle of nowhere saloon about to test my grit on a few too many shots of bourbon.

The only thing that caught my ears lines right up with Dana’s notes about the width. Of course his notes are always on the money.

Looking forward to hearing the next mix or master!

Cheers,

Jeremy

[Jeremy Roye]

Thanks so much @-PT @JoeRobinson @CMN @dana ! Really appreciate the encouraging words, production tips and tricks, and real talk.

I took your notes to heart as I agreed with most every time I hear the playback.

So I implemented them in this version!

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qve6gu3w9einzdgxpagfd/Daylight-SW-Mp-notes.mp3?rlkey=mtxx5lau868wtqgouwrqpj163&st=ekqsy4pk&dl=0

Mostly subtle: vocals up, shorter pre-bridge, beat up a smidge (with more filtering here and there), arp up near the end, synths hit on the 1 in the chorus instead of fade ins.

My goal is not to add anymore bells and whistles at this point. Just hoping the vocal-to-instrumental levels feel right. (hard to hear my own voice sometimes haha).

Better with vocals up or too loud?

[Jeremy Roye]

Thanks so much, Dana!

You’ve shared a few times with me now to think through the structural building so I’m definitely committing that to heart (adding new elements each chorus, etc.). Actually, I’m making a Vib3 Machine-esque cheat sheet with this note!

Giving everything else a go as well!

I finally bought the full Melodyne and it’s crazy that I can tune a few vocal parts within a vocal stack group stem. Sounds pretty great!

As for kicks, I’ve attached a version with a supplemental kick for more punch. Did I get it right? I guess by punch you were feeling something round and 100kish?

I looked back at your Greater Hands kick doubling video (so helpful!) and realized I’m not ready to afford all the crazy plugins you used. haha. Too ninja level for me! 🥷

No Slate so I lined up the kick manually. #beastmode.

And I got a trial of Fusion from Master the Mix to help with phasing and such.

I’d love to know if it’s working before I endeavor to line up the other 400 kicks waves! 😅 (I wish Ableton’s audio to midi and groove were more accurate with my kick wav. timing.)

Thanks again!

j

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[Jeremy Roye]

Hey Paul! Could finally hear your mp3 intro. I love it honestly. I’m sold! Thank you very much, I like the fade in on the bells and slower fade in on the vocal.

Might use the pre-intro for the album. (Who makes pre-intros anymore?! haha).

[Jeremy Roye]

Thanks again Paul! Glad to softer crooner vibe is working for you! I appreciate that. Definitely looking forward to hearing that intro swap.

[Jeremy Roye]

Thanks Jesse for all the kinds words and deep listen for notes. Much appreciated. I’m glad it brings you to a happy place. That makes me very happy!

I will check those out and see what I can finesse. I felt the kick was perhaps a bit hot in the verse as well.

Intro – I think we used some weird phasy fx thing on the intro. Phasing isn’t something I typically check for, how would you bring it back into positive?

I’m thinking maybe I do a short intro version for Spotify and long intro for album. Let’s see!

Thank you again!

J

[Jeremy Roye]

Thank you, Dana! Bumping on the laptop is a good sign! Yeah, love me a 90’s shuffle. Looking forward to hear any other juicy bits you might have!

[Jeremy Roye]

Hey Paul, I thought you might try the shorter intro and you did! haha. Ya know, I was thinking the same thing. When I made these songs I was very into intros but my newer pop brain wants to just get to it!

For some reason I can’t play your version. 🙁 And I get an error when I try to download it too. I’d love to hear it though! Could you send via email? [email protected]

[Jeremy Roye]

Hey Jesse!

Bravo, man! Such a sweet tune, vibes and, as Dana said, time capsule for your music and family.

As a father (of a 12 year old girl), I am a big believer in the power of gifting music and sharing our love and legacy in this way, especially with a video with your wife’s art work!

Thanks for sharing! Do we get a boat version on da grams. 😉

[Jeremy Roye]

Thank you so so much @dana and @-PT for repeated listens and feedback. I think I got it to a good place thanks to your help and hope to have it out in the coming days!

@Nate I appreciate it and glad you like the drop. Of course you deserve lots of credit with your gorgeous string and choral layers, as always!

[Jeremy Roye]

@-PT @dana hah! Thx. Oh, shoot, I shared the wrong link! Haha. No animals in this one:

Here’s the Daylight master!

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pwa34og7b03wt0xa582xg/Daylight-M1.wav?rlkey=qfx5bz7zkrxv03j528n5z6fz1&st=ahdfmywg&dl=0

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